Ever heard of GSM Outdoors? They just bought Cold steel.

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Smiling, Dec 2, 2020.

  1. rje58

    rje58 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 21, 2013
    I understand your frustration with some of the other members and their posts, but this just seems like baiting and bashing - kind of the opposite, but no less uncalled for, IMO - than the 'whiny apologies'.

     
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  2. Quiet

    Quiet "That guy" Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    Your concern is noted, but entirely incorrect. It's not baiting, it's also not bashing. I myself have made fun of Lynn Thompson many times in the past, and will most likely do so in threads in the future. However, I have met and spoken with him a few times, and I've watched most of Cold Steel's dumb, hilarious videos. I ultimately respect the guy and what he built with his personality, showmanship, and business acumen.

    So, with that in mind, let me say this. If you have ever watched a Cold Steel video, or videos of others speaking with Lynn, or ever spoken with him in person, then you would know 100% that that video was entirely out of character for LT. I cannot imagine a universe where he enjoyed making it, his delivery makes it clear that he was given a script and told to read it and not deviate from it (from people who own him now). That's why so many people are calling it a "hostage video", because that's what it is. In doing so, GSM has made it clear that they intend to divorce the personality of LT from the brand of Sold Steel, and whether you like that or not is entirely up to you.

    Personally, I don't believe he's going to stick around, and won't have any significant input into future products but hey, I'll welcome being wrong if that turns out to be the case.
     
  3. spoonrobot

    spoonrobot

    May 1, 2004
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  4. rje58

    rje58 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 21, 2013
    I'm not taking issue with your most recent reply (quote at bottom(2)). What I personally think was probably uncalled for (and the pot calling the kettle black, so to speak, as the opposite extreme of the 'whiny apologists') was the tone and insults, which I have bolded in your original post that I responded to, below:

    Saying someone is bought and paid for is one thing - but "his new masters"? Really? The parts I bolded sound more like the way you would talk about a dog than a successful business person: "pat you on the head and say "good boy"...

    I am not taking sides in this debate, I'm just saying that if you're calling out other posters for their comments, you would be well served to hold yourself to a higher standard than theirs. Just my opinion, which I realize now I probably should have kept to myself.

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  5. Nepling00

    Nepling00 Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

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    Apr 24, 2020
    All of us at some point are going to have to choose or be forced to move on. I know this is concerning to cold steel fans, but there is a lot of talent out there for cold steel to work with and move forward. Most major knives companies are collaborating with talented designers to make great things. Hopefully, this is the direction the new owners choose to go.
     
  6. Quiet

    Quiet "That guy" Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    Edited to be polite.

    Let me clarify my position for you. I am speaking of Lynn Thompson the way I am because I'm disappointed in his decision to be a paid for husk of a front man. If he'd been the guy he's always says he is, he'd have taken the check, tossed deuces and said "Thanks, and make that video yourself!" and walked out the door. He didn't, so that's on him. He was a self-made man...and now he's an employee, and will be taking orders from people who don't care about what he wants, or anything other than the bottom line. I know it's crazy, but people ARE allowed to hold multiple opinions and viewpoints all at the same time. I am able to respect him for creating Sold Steel, while still being disappointed that he's now a propped up cardboard cutout that this company is only keeping around so they can keep the fanbase he built around.
     
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  7. Steely_Gunz

    Steely_Gunz Got the Khukuri fevah Moderator

    May 9, 2002
    The last couple of videos almost remind me of how when there was a bit of a hostile take over of Men's Warehouse a few years ago. The deep gravely voiced "You're going to like the way you look, I guarantee it." guy was the founder. He was pushed out, they did a few transition slogans using similar verbiage and now none of the commercials use a catch phrase makes me think of a place where I can go get an off the rack suit for a couple hundred dollars but at least the owner of the company promises it won't hang off my frame like a refrigerator box.

    To my mind, this is the first buy out of the information age where the founder was front and center, visible, and the company actively selling its personality as part of the package. LT is lightning in a bottle. I dunno how you mass package that and make it both genuine and profitable for investors. To be honest, when this all started, I really didn't care, but delving into this a bit more, I'm actually a bit melancholy about it. It's almost like Lynn died, but obviously I know that's not true. I hope he has decades left doing what he love.
     
  8. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Don't feed the Trolls Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    This is the new Sold Steel warehouse at 5250 Frye Rd, Irving TX.
    When I get a chance I'll try to go by and check it out in person. This is probably an existing facility that GSM already owned.
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  9. Lodd

    Lodd Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jan 23, 2015
    I don't have a facebook account and I'm trying to keep it that way. Does anyone have some screenshots or a summary?
     
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  10. Quiet

    Quiet "That guy" Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    Quite honestly, it's mostly the same things being said in this thread.
     
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  11. Norcaldude

    Norcaldude Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 19, 2014
    But is there a signed and notarized document from LT and the CEO of GSM explaining exactly what is going on?
     
  12. cbrstar

    cbrstar

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    Sep 7, 2015
    I feel the video is just 100% scripted damage control. This is 100% speculation, but I think GSM may have bought CS a while ago but they were acting more like a silent partner. But with GSM being acquired themselves recently; push came to shove and someone higher up wanted GSM instantly at the forefront. Otherwise there would have been a video way before this fiasco of the community figuring it out themselves.
     
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  13. Lorien

    Lorien KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 5, 2005
    The Land and the King are One.
     
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  14. Eli Chaps

    Eli Chaps Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 20, 2018
    No more talking to Cold Steel people.

    The Ventura number is now answered by the GSM automated service.
     
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  15. Norcaldude

    Norcaldude Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 19, 2014
    The Cold Steel deep state will continue their resistance against the GSM invaders!
     
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  16. cbrstar

    cbrstar

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    Sep 7, 2015
    I just wanted to add that a company is more then just one man, it's all the people who work there. When I needed a missing pocket clip for my used Recon it wasn't LT that helped me get one and have it mailed to me for free. It was the awesome Mod in the CS forums who sadly is not there anymore. That simple kind gesture turbo charged my love for the brand and I went out that very night a bought a new knife.

    CS had people working there for years that loved the brand and the lifestyle. You are not going to get the same energy from someone when it's "Just a job". Good employee's takes years to develop and all that work has been wiped out over night.
     
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  17. Steely_Gunz

    Steely_Gunz Got the Khukuri fevah Moderator

    May 9, 2002
    100%
    The biggest thing I fight is keeping good employees. It's not a money thing. It's a lifestyle of the job thing. When I get a good employee I pay them well, offer whatever perks I can afford, and I have their backs. I actually think that last one is what they appreciate most. They know they are valued above the dollar they bring in. They know that they have full rights to leave a job if they feel it is unsafe or beyond their scope of expertise. They know that we as business owners understand that they have families and that making time for that is important to us as well.

    This is why I won't ever sell my business. My brother can have my shares when I'm done. I'll assist how I can, but I never want to be the guy that shutters the doors and tells everyone to go home. Whoever coined the term, "It's nothing personal, it's just business" is a clinical sociopath. All business is personal on some level. I hope those nice folks in CA land on their feet.
     
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  18. craytab

    craytab

    Jan 26, 2012
    I'm gonna need you to make an insta-face video of that and post a link for proof.
     
  19. DocJD

    DocJD

    Jan 29, 2016
    It also makes no sense , IMO . :confused:

    Having your knives feature a lock used on Demko's would be great advertising .
     
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  20. DocJD

    DocJD

    Jan 29, 2016
    :eek: what built Cold Steel ! :p
     
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