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It followed me home (Part 2)

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by Steve Tall, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. Miller '72

    Miller '72

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    Jul 25, 2017
    Excellent informative post :thumbsup:
    This presents a very good question and theory.
    I have heard the term shoe rasp but I didn't put the two together as the same style.

    Was it mentioned in "An Axe To Grind"? Or was just the "Four In Hand" mentioned by name? I will be rewatching tonight:):thumbsup:

    I like your Nicholson branding theory;)
     
  2. Kevin Houtzager

    Kevin Houtzager

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    Jun 25, 2017
    over here it still is a shoe rasp. So im betting Nicholson invented the name. There still mostly used by ferriers over here.
     
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  3. quinton

    quinton

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    Nov 4, 2006
    I'm betting today's four in hand rasp was was mostly used by the many cobblers back in the day, simply referred to as a shoe rasp, and the name just stuck. There used to be a shoe shop or two in every little town around here, I haven't seen one anywhere in years.

    I've also shod a bunch of horses over the years and never found a use for anything other than a flat farrier's rasp.
     
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  4. Miller '72

    Miller '72

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    Jul 25, 2017
    That makes total sense to me. Seems that when a trade or skilled craft is phased out or put close to extinction, the tools, terms and lifestyle of that craft start to be lost as well.

    There use to be a cobbler/shoe repair shop in my hometown and in near every other town here in CT too.
    Funny, sad really, the last hold out I considered still local, held out till about late 90's early 2000's.
    It's a damn CVS or Walmart now.
     
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  5. Steve Tall

    Steve Tall

    Aug 28, 2010
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  6. Old Axeman

    Old Axeman

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    Jan 10, 2015
    I always called it "Four In Hand". If I could only have one metal tool to make hafts, it would be this one.
     
  7. Steve Tall

    Steve Tall

    Aug 28, 2010
    An interesting book from 1852 describes how files and rasps were made, and specifies different patterns of rasp teeth for different applications:

    Lines sloping from the left down to the right-hand side: cabinet rasps, wood rasps, farriers' rasps.

    Lines sloping from the right down to the left-hand side: rasps for boot and shoe last makers, and some others.

    Circular lines or crescent form: rasps for gun-stockers and saddle-tree makers.

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    from Appleton's Dictionary of Machines, Mechanics, Engine-work, and Engineering: Illustrated with Four Thousand Engravings on Wood. In Two Volumes, by D. Appleton, 1852, 960 pages
     
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  8. Miller '72

    Miller '72

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    Jul 25, 2017
    I like that "Last Makers' Cabinet Rasp".

    This is very interesting and informative.
    Seems the four in hand may have evolved from the shoe rasp.
    What became of the horse rasp?
    I believe that more accurately, my new to me Heller Bros Co. file/rasp is a plain horse rasp and not specifically a four in one style.

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  9. Agent_H

    Agent_H Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 21, 2013
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    What's on your bench?
     
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  10. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel

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  11. rjdankert

    rjdankert Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 10, 2011
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  12. Miller '72

    Miller '72

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    Jul 25, 2017
    Utter chaos and nothing as sweet as I see on yours :thumbsup::cool:

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  13. osage outlaw

    osage outlaw

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    Feb 21, 2015
    I picked up this Norlund axe on a camping trip this week. I was happy with the find. It's in great shape with a nice aged look.

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  14. Miller '72

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  15. Beachlogger

    Beachlogger

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    Dec 27, 2015
    Never hurts to ask
     
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  16. Miller '72

    Miller '72

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    Jul 25, 2017
    I am sometimes surprised at what people didn't know they wanted to give away till their asked ;)

    These were fairly obvious give away by way of their staging and location, I just like to be polite when they are out in their yard like this gentleman was.
     
  17. crbnSteeladdict

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  18. Miller '72

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  19. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel

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  20. garry3

    garry3

    Sep 11, 2012
    That rasp you like looks like a Nicholson no 49. Look for a USA made one. The no 50 is good also but cloggs a little more. It takes a big step up in price to get one that’s better as far as I know.
     
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