New Collaboration with KnifeResearch

Discussion in 'LionSteel knives' started by GianniLion, Dec 16, 2010.

  1. molletta

    molletta Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 1, 2004
    Is not the some project. Enki is a bit bigger.
    A new ergonomic shape for high performance.
     
  2. Mike157

    Mike157 Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 29, 2006
    I'm liking the Enki. Can't wait for some more photos. The X5 is very nice looking also - if I understand correctly, no longer available? Mike
     
  3. Neo

    Neo

    Sep 12, 2002
    Only a small quantity of the X5 where made

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  4. Mike157

    Mike157 Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 29, 2006
    Thanks Neo. I was looking into the X5 and some of the other knives you listed. Some pretty nice designs and great steels. It's interesting for me to get a glimpse of some of the nice designs that aren't always available in the US. Maybe it's better for me that way. I'd be spending more than the excessive amounts I already spend on knives. I do like the knives that Knife Research has produced. Mike
     
  5. molletta

    molletta Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 1, 2004
    X5 was a prototype.... Only 36 made...
     
  6. Jenslkl

    Jenslkl

    79
    May 4, 2010
    As I said, I think the Enki looks great. I can understand that some don't like choils in general. But I think it looks great, and the Enki just has other uses than the Rasul. Can't wait for it.

    Btw Molletta. Do you want to share some info about the the Ningishzidda. 6 inches long? Very interesting name. Wiki says it comes from the Mesopotamian religion like the Enki and is the deity of the underworld. Translated by danish historian Thorkild Jacobsen :) I like the family naming!

    Also perhaps some folder info? I would like you to consider using Böhler K390 steel. It's supposed to be the best performing steel for at small blade today. It would be expensive, but extremely exclusive and desirable. And the performance would be out of this world.
     
  7. Neo

    Neo

    Sep 12, 2002
    They have used K360 for the Nexus 7, so I would see them capable of using K390 in some future ;)
     
  8. Neo

    Neo

    Sep 12, 2002
    Maybe the Ningishzidda field knife will look more like a longer X5 with vanadis 4E steel :)
     
  9. Jenslkl

    Jenslkl

    79
    May 4, 2010
    Thanks Neo, I didn't know that. What a shame I joined the party too late :)
     
  10. molletta

    molletta Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 1, 2004
    Ningishzidda will have another steel with high wear and toughness.
    Project is completed. Hope to go in production in this year. ;)
     
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  11. molletta

    molletta Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 1, 2004
    For folders avaluated some steel. At this moment I am working on SR Mini and SR-X for Lionsteel and the first folder of Knife Research.
     
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  12. Jenslkl

    Jenslkl

    79
    May 4, 2010
    Can't you reveal what steel it is? :D And also a render pic? Can't wait for this either :D
     
  13. Neo

    Neo

    Sep 12, 2002
    unimax? :D :cool:
     
  14. Jenslkl

    Jenslkl

    79
    May 4, 2010
    Yea I've been thinking about what steel to use if not Vanadis 4E. Unfortunately I don't think there is a steel with better Wear/toughness combination out there for a 6 inch blade.

    Though Böhler K490 looks very promising. Almost same wear resistance as M4 but much higher toughness. This is one to consider.

    There's American steels that perhaps could be chosen. CPM 3V, 51200, M4 perhaps.

    There's also Japanese steels, but I don't know much about them. I hear the Japanese tend to be reluctant to sell their best steel to foreigners. Don't know if it's true.
     
  15. Mike157

    Mike157 Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 29, 2006
    If you don't mind my asking, is the Ningishzidda a KnifeResearch or LionSteel project? Thank you. Mike
     
  16. molletta

    molletta Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 1, 2004
    Böhler K490 is one of steels considered. Only big flat bars available...
     
  17. molletta

    molletta Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 1, 2004
    Ningishzidda will be a "molletta". Like Carthago.
     
  18. Jenslkl

    Jenslkl

    79
    May 4, 2010
    Yeah not the easiest to work with, but K490 would be a fantastic steel. It combines high wear resistance with high toughness. Not only toughness against gross failure, but also has a high ductility which means very high chipping resistance. Plus it can be used in various hardnesses. Actually all the way up to RC 64 even though I would think RC 60-62 would be optimal.

    According to Böhler, at RC 62 the wear resistance is almost as high as PM23 / M4, and the toughness is more than double as high.

    All in all I think it's worth the extra production difficulties :)
     
  19. molletta

    molletta Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 1, 2004
    There is also an alternative that has similar characteristics.
    This is available only in blocks to saw and not in sheets.
    Working blocks causes a waste of materials and processes that are difficult to reconcile with the normal production.
    Let's see where we end ...
     
  20. Jenslkl

    Jenslkl

    79
    May 4, 2010
    Yes it's true with blocks of material there will be a lot a waste material. I don't know how much better the big bars will be, but if K490 is not worse than the alternative in this regard, it makes it easier to choose K490 for the project :)

    Anyway, I'm looking forward to the result, and can't wait to see the design :D
     

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