"Old Knives"

Gevonovich · Jul 10, 2019

What he ^^^^^said, Herder....wow !!!!!

danno50 · Jul 10, 2019

Herder, as has been said, WOW!! :thumbsup:

Also great catalog cuts Lloyd and Lambertiana!

herder · Jul 10, 2019

Thanks danno50, and here is one with you in mind.
An early post war Keen Kutter Stockman sitting on an old Keen Kutter alligator wrench.

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JJ Cahill · Jul 11, 2019

I really like the "Keen Kutter" trademark!

Thought I'd join in and add a pair from the early post WWII era, as well (note the "gassy" covers.)

Campbellclanman · Jul 11, 2019

Beautiful Keen Kutters Guys, I sent Paul Hilborn over one day a very nice Carving Fork and Knife by Keen Kutter- Carving sets are a bit of a weakness to me, I hope Paul sees this and posts a Photo so you will know what I mean, I think I found a couple of real cool Keen Kutter Axe Heads for him too as Paul kinda likes the Keen Kutter thing as well ( well Hang...who doesn't? ).

jjcahil my friend, I know a true Hangman's knot when I see one- if that is a true Hangman's Knot- you should be able to hold the Shank and pull the Knot and it will completely unravel to a tidy bit of Rope again - but I see theres a Knot in the end so this may not happen.
The KK Knife isnt gassing is it- as thats not Pryremite is it? more so just mere shrinkage?

JJ Cahill · Jul 11, 2019

Campbellclanman said:
jjcahil my friend, I know a true Hangman's knot when I see one- if that is a true Hangman's Knot- you should be able to hold the Shank and pull the Knot and it will completely unravel to a tidy bit of Rope again - but I see theres a Knot in the end so this may not happen.
The KK Knife isnt gassing is it- as thats not Pryremite is it? more so just mere shrinkage?

Good eye Duncan, you caught me on the "hangman's knot"

I do put the extra knot so it (hopefully) stays put. The shrinkage has not moved in a few years, though I always tend to think "celluloid/Pyremite" when I see that. Does other early plastic type cover material also exhibit shrinkage? I'm on a continual and fascinating learning curve

JJ Cahill · Jul 11, 2019

Campbellclanman said:
Beautiful Keen Kutters Guys, I sent Paul Hilborn over one day a very nice Carving Fork and Knife by Keen Kutter- Carving sets are a bit of a weakness to me, I hope Paul sees this and posts a Photo so you will know what I mean, I think I found a couple of real cool Keen Kutter Axe Heads for him too as Paul kinda likes the Keen Kutter thing as well ( well Hang...who doesn't? ).

I really enjoy finding various cutlery and products from these fine, old companies. To date I've swapped out all my newer German steel for old "Frozen Heat" Robeson's kitchen knives

It becomes quite a journey that I know you have travelled well!

Campbellclanman · Jul 11, 2019

JJ Cahill said:
Good eye Duncan, you caught me on the "hangman's knot" I do put the extra knot so it (hopefully) stays put. The shrinkage has not moved in a few years, though I always tend to think "celluloid/Pyremite" when I see that. Does other early plastic type cover material also exhibit shrinkage? I'm on a continual and fascinating learning curve

I think so - I am sure there are all sorts of different types - the flammable and gassing one being the Pyremite - there are discussions on this in BF and AAPK!
There is the Black composite that I dont think is half as volatile as Pyremite - I just dont know the name of it

- I am sure someone can come in and help perhaps?

TheChunk91 · Jul 11, 2019

herder said:
Thanks danno50, and here is one with you in mind.
An early post war Keen Kutter Stockman sitting on an old Keen Kutter alligator wrench.

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Great post war stockman. The wrench is neat as well, very old school.

danno50 · Jul 11, 2019

Beautiful knife and wrench, herder! :thumbsup:

I have always thought that the KKs with the Keen Kutter stamped in the shield were Schrade made, however, yours looks more like a Camillus made knife?? Love the wrench!
Aso a lovely pair, JJCahill! :thumbsup:

I believe that Duncan is right on the handle material, shrinking but not outgassing? Not sure what exactly what the material is, but not celluloid. There is a member over on AAPK who coined the term "shrinky dink" for that material. I think Camillus made your knife as well?

waynorth · Jul 11, 2019

While still near the topic of KeenKutter things . . . . .

SteveC · Jul 11, 2019

herder said:
Here is an old New York Knife Co. with a pretty unique blade etch.
It reads "Carpenters Knife" with a picture of their famous "arm and hammer" near the tang.

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Oh My !!!!

SteveC · Jul 11, 2019

waynorth , great picture !

waynorth · Jul 11, 2019

Thanks, Steve!!

JJ Cahill · Jul 11, 2019

Campbellclanman said:
I think so - I am sure there are all sorts of different types - the flammable and gassing one being the Pyremite - there are discussions on this in BF and AAPK!
There is the Black composite that I dont think is half as volatile as Pyremite - I just dont know the name of it - I am sure someone can come in and help perhaps?

danno50 said:
Beautiful knife and wrench, herder! I have always thought that the KKs with the Keen Kutter stamped in the shield were Schrade made, however, yours looks more like a Camillus made knife?? Love the wrench!
Aso a lovely pair, JJCahill! I believe that Duncan is right on the handle material, shrinking but not outgassing? Not sure what exactly what the material is, but not celluloid. There is a member over on AAPK who coined the term "shrinky dink" for that material. I think Camillus made your knife as well?

Thanks Duncan!!! Thanks Dan!!! I do think the KK looks very much like a Camillus pattern!

waynorth said:
While still near the topic of KeenKutter things . . . . .

Very cool set of KK edged tools, waynorth!

herder · Jul 11, 2019

Thanks all.
JJ Cahill, very nice knife and pliers. I agree with Campellclanman and danno50 that the handles are just shrinking a bit and not out gassing.
waynorth, wonderful K.K. Jack and love that Gothic style dagger/scissors.

JJ Cahill · Jul 11, 2019

herder said:
JJ Cahill, very nice knife and pliers. I agree with Campellclanman and danno50 that the handles are just shrinking a bit and not out gassing.

Thanks Herder! I now know it's not flammable, which is great

Campbellclanman · Jul 11, 2019

And....my friend , safe to store with your other Knives

JJ Cahill · Jul 12, 2019

Campbellclanman said:
And....my friend , safe to store with your other Knives

That's great to know, thanks! I try to keep the few potential hazards I have in an open area, away from any flames

Misplaced Hillbilly · Jul 12, 2019

I've picked up two different of the post war Camillus navy utility knives. On both the covers was in horrible shape, the first I recovered in whitetail deer antler. This one is being redone into a two blader. No idea what the stuff is, but given the conditions of the knives I say it doesn't outgass. Both knives was relatively rust free. Nothing to the extreme I've seen pics of of outgassed cell. I still have the pieces from the latest one, I'll do a flammability test on it later.