"Old Knives"

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by VCM3, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. eisman

    eisman Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 9, 2009
    Do not use an Ultra-Sonic. That wood is too soft and will disintegrate into mud. Soft brushes, no liquid, plastic picks if needed. And lots of patience...
     
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  2. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Sounds like you've done this before, eisman!!??o_O
     
  3. lambertiana

    lambertiana Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    I think 1930's-1940s would be correct. Priceless because it came from your great grandpa. Cool celluloid, I have never seen any like that before.

    I don't think this is colonial. This is possibly conjecture because it is hard to see anything, but the general shape looks like a swayback jack with a sheepsfoot blade, which was popular from the mid-1800s on. Just because it was found by an old wall does not make it as old as the wall. It could have been dropped there 30 years ago. If you look at images of items retrieved from the steamship Arabia wreck (it sank in 1856) you will see some swayback jacks.
     
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  4. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    I dont see any reason as to why you wouldnt soften that with Water- Nothing it hasn't seen in the Ground getting wet for the last????? years, Water will soften the Dirt so you can work it off, if you soak it sensibly- as in at short intervals at a time, you will soak the outside FAR more than the inside, and if a bit of Water gets into the metal? so what? as I said before- nothing compared to what this knife has had over the past probably 1, 2 or 3 decades- more?

    The Knife hasn't been dry- otherwise it wouldn't be solidly caked around the Knife- its been wet - then dry - the wet.... and so on - a bit of water wont hurt whatsoever, then once you get to close layers that may still cocoon the Knife- water again by dipping in then out will help soften the cakes of Dirt / Mud, once you finish you can rinse with warm water- then treat with WD40.
     
  5. eisman

    eisman Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 9, 2009
    I like the ultrasonic cleaner; but I've been surprised at what it can do at times. I won't put wood or any of the old plastic or rubber (or pretty much any pre-1950 synthetic) in the tank. Some just get dull, some lose color as the dyes and oils come out, and some end up as little bitty particles in just a few minutes. And the sad part is it's hard to guess which will happen.
     
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  6. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Whoa! Sounds too risky!! Thanks eisman!!
     
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  7. r8shell

    r8shell Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 16, 2010
    Would it be redundant to start a thread just for very obscure cutlery brands? I wouldn't want to be a "splitter" :oops:

    Here is a knife marked "Jones & Son Germany" (seller's pics) I've never heard of them, and can't find anything besides a listing in Goins with no dates or info. The lack of swedging makes me think it's post WWII, but that's just a wild guess. It's all steel construction, no brass, and seeing what looks like a pinned shield on ebony, I went for it.
    Judging from the rust pattern, I think it was stored closed on something damp.

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    I'll knock the rust off it with some fine steel wool and give it a good oiling.
     
  8. r8shell

    r8shell Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 16, 2010
    It's looking better, already! Nice and snappy, too. :):thumbsup:
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  9. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    I'm "Jones-ing for that Jack!! Nice one r8shell!!!
    Old Black jacks are the best!!:D
     
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  10. r8shell

    r8shell Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 16, 2010
    LOL Thanks. I don't know how old, but the ebony couldn't be any blacker!
     
  11. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Deserves a button!!! BLACK JACK BUTTON.jpg
     
  12. r8shell

    r8shell Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 16, 2010
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  13. Robeson

    Robeson Basic Member Basic Member

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    Apr 27, 2015
    An old pruning knife too bad it has corrosion il-570x-N-1387660944-f3qs.jpg
     

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  14. TheChunk91

    TheChunk91 Basic Member Basic Member

    Aug 15, 2013
    So I've been pretty good lately but this 861 showed up on the bay and I couldn't help but send an offer. Got it for a great price.

    Somewhere along the line it had a bad sharpening job, even touched a grinder, but I got that straightened out and will now carry it occasionally. Thankfully they didn't scratch up the blades terribly. Really snappy and smooth as butter, just so well made. It's a nice supplement to the one I have that is in perfect condition.

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  15. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Very nice Knife there Paul. The lighter Peach Seed Bone makes a nice change, coined liners along with exceptional build = a darned nice one!
     
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  16. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Nice Stockman, Paul!! Looks like you got the blades squared away! Perfect for carrying, and it's got bragging rights - look at that jimping!!!:eek::cool:
     
  17. paulhilborn

    paulhilborn Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 22, 2006
    That's a beauty Paul:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
  18. TheChunk91

    TheChunk91 Basic Member Basic Member

    Aug 15, 2013
    Thanks guys!

    It certainly has the pedigree, was mistreated earlier in life but has been adopted to a better home now. :D
     
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  19. JustinR

    JustinR Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 1, 2008
    Man look at those coined liners!! I only have one that retained that much detail.

    Usually gets buffed out by unscrupulous sellers making a knife “Kentucky Mint”.

    Love the 861, great pick up.
     
  20. tongueriver

    tongueriver Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 28, 2007
    Received this one recently from Barry Wolder. His images. catalog cut001.jpg p1.jpg p2.jpg
     

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