Spyderco Southard blade failure with pics

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by Atakdog, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. Stays Sharp

    Stays Sharp

    Nov 21, 2013
    That's what you get one the company's owner is a knife nut.
  2. Atakdog

    Atakdog Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 3, 2012
    thanks Sal, I'll try to get the knife on the way to you tomorrow and it will certainly happen by Monday. I think it's really cool that you get on the forums and actually talk with the people that use your knives, and as the last dozen posts of this thread indicate, many others agree.
  3. colubrid

    colubrid Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 26, 2005
    *meanwhile in China, workers lose their job*
  4. TheModernNeanderthal

    TheModernNeanderthal Gold Member Gold Member

    May 29, 2011
  5. JNewell


    Nov 18, 2005
  6. JNewell


    Nov 18, 2005
    I wasn't going to reply to these posts, but you said it so well. Cruise over to some of the other manufacturer's forums and see what/who turns up...or doesn't... :eek: :grumpy: :mad:
  7. singularity35


    Mar 1, 2010
    Now we'll see if the OP will send in his knife.
  8. JNewell


    Nov 18, 2005
    He said he was going to a few posts up. :thumbup:
  9. singularity35


    Mar 1, 2010
    Ohh, good to hear that. :D
  10. duncanmclawd


    Dec 3, 2003
    Any update on this one? I don't doubt Spyderco will take care of this problem. But I'm curious about their findings :)
  11. Vicarious Reality

    Vicarious Reality

    Apr 9, 2008
    Wow, how very freakin surprising
    Reminds me of the old Recon 1 design, lol
  12. jazub


    Feb 6, 2010
    Very little material there.
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2015
  13. watanabe


    Jan 11, 2009
    not a fan of the internal stop pin and similar designs....for this reason.
  14. Cereal_killer


    Apr 4, 2013
    Sal stated in the spyderco sub-forum thread that in soon as the knife got there a replacement would be sent, not a repair. He requested it be addressed specifically to he or Eric. I'm confident that won't change. We should be asking Sal for an update on his findings, if they learned anything. I'm sure it'll be replaced (unless it turns out to be a fake).
  15. A.P.F.


    Mar 3, 2006
    If you refer back to the original post, you will see that Eric sent a new knife along with an apology. Kudos to Spyderco!

    That said, the knife failed exactly where I would have expected it to fail. :(
  16. Atheris


    Jan 27, 2012
    Going to follow this thread. I'm guessing bad heat treatment, but I'll be curious to hear the official findings. A Southard is on my short list too.
  17. RamZar

    RamZar Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 3, 2013
    The OP did mention that he was taken care of promptly:

    Curious to know if this was a material failure or a design flaw.
  18. nccole


    Jun 2, 2011
    As long as the OP is completely honest, it has to be a material failure. Hopefully not a whole batch, and isolated to this or just a few others. I am sure that Spyderco did proper R&D and witnessed this exact failure under presumably way more force than the OP applied while carving some pine.
  19. RamZar

    RamZar Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 3, 2013
    I wouldn't rule out a design flaw out of hand. Perhaps the area of the breakage needs thicker material.

    Remember the Bushcraft had breakage issues and Spyderco redesigned it by simply not drilling the hole in the tang closest to the blade.

    Spyderco Bushcraft total failure.(Warning:Knife gore present)

    Last edited: Feb 16, 2014
  20. Atakdog

    Atakdog Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 3, 2012
    Sorry I haven't been back on this thread in a while.
    Anyways, I now see that the internal stop pin slot does significantly reduce blade strength but I don't think failure like I had (whether caused by heat treat, crack, etc.) is an issue with this knife. Despite the cutout 4mm of a supersteel like cts-204p should be plenty for almost any task I can think of. Eric told me in the letter I got that they had not seen a single other issue like this despite having sold so many Southards, so I doubt there is a bad batch associated with it.

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