Why do I hate Cold Steel?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by TravisL, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. James Y

    James Y

    Feb 18, 1999
    Cold Steel knives are definitely up there among the better knives in terms of pure cutting performance. And in the experiences I've had with the CS knives I own, the heat treating processes used by CS's manufacturers/contractors are very good. Although my main experience with CS steels are their AUS-8 and CTS-XHP.

    That said, I still never really bond with CS's knives enough to make them a regular part of my EDC. I don't know why. I feel the same about Kershaw and ZT. There's some really good designs there, too, but I've never seemed able to bond with their knives, either, for whatever reason(s). Even though most of them also perform very well at what knives are meant to do: cutting.

    Jim
     
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  2. BMCGear

    BMCGear Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2014
    I've been considering one of the Micro Recon 1's for this very purpose. I just placed an order.

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  3. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    You quoted me because ... ?
     
  4. BMCGear

    BMCGear Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2014
    Accident.
     
  5. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    OK
     
  6. midnight flyer

    midnight flyer Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 12, 2009
    Well said. Truly.

    Over the years I have worked with a lot of very successful people that are as obnoxious as hell. Some good ideas, their obnoxious bragging and self centered ways got them noticed and in the game. And maybe a factor was that so many were waiting for them to fail. But what keeps them in the game is their continued ability to deliver on their claims. The best of intentions and dedication can't guarantee that. Only luck, skill, determination, dedication and more luck can do that.

    This thread has caused me to think about Lynn and his silliness in marketing. For me, this thread has made him less offensive to me as a marketing shill. CS is his company and and has his hands unashamedly all over it. Regardless of all the moral tears shed over him being a hunter and fisherman, the screaming from desk/cubicle "operators" that can't stand his testing methods, and the disgust over his designs, he presses on flying his own flag. I have never heard him say anything nearly as vitriolic in response to his detractors as they have said about him.

    He has found a way to do what any marketing genius does, and that is to keep his name out there in the public eye.

    We are a strange group in America. We like eccentrics (unless they aren't successful, they they are just weird), we admire and adore terribly successful people of all stripe and occupation. We respect and glorify our athletes, we honor and revere our titans of business, etc., etc. But only as long as they act the WE think they should, conduct themselves in the way WE think is appropriate. And after reaching certain heights, they must develop a sense of humility and thankfulness to "all the people that got them there". To be popular, they even need to stick their toe in the dirt, hang their thumbs in their pant loops and say "aw shucks" every once in a while. Yessir, we like our successful people to have a sense of humility about their success, no matter their sacrifice.

    I have to say though, that his marketing techniques are successful NOT ONE SINGLE person I know has ever seen one of his "offensive" videos. Or any of his videos for that matter. I am part of a knife carrying profession (construction) and I hunt, fish, hike, and always have a couple of knives on me and knives are almost always part of the conversation. All the boys like my American Lawman but they don't know Lynn, aren't aware of his antics, and wouldn't think of taking the time to look him up to watch a video. I have described the videos, and my boys just aren't interested. Maybe it is kind of a select group that takes his videos so closely to heart, I don't know.

    To me, they are just knives. Or in Thompson's case, knives of all shapes and sizes, swords, shovels, baseball bats, sunglasses, throwing stars, spear points, and on and on.

    Robert
     
  7. Loneriderz

    Loneriderz

    397
    Dec 1, 2008
    I have small hands and I prefer sub 3 inch blades, as such none of their knives are for me. That and I'm not sure about this, but do they evee make a FFG folders?
     
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  8. clovehitch

    clovehitch

    64
    Jan 8, 2018
    They have some smaller folders actually, but choices are limited. I really wish the tuff lite came in CTS XHP... what an easy to sharpen slicing machine that would be.
     
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  9. Mick_1KRR

    Mick_1KRR

    May 1, 2016
    Their voyager model is FFG, a very slicey knife.
     
  10. jill jackson

    jill jackson

    Sep 5, 2006
    Broken Skull is FFG.
     
  11. 353

    353

    Feb 20, 2015
    Yeah, but the blade has "BROKEN SKULL" on it.. LOL! :D
     
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  12. jill jackson

    jill jackson

    Sep 5, 2006
    Yeah, that's pretty bad. I still have an orange one I use in the woods though. It's good for hacking thorns off hiking trails. I wasn't going to get one because of the big lettering on the blade. But, after using a friend's and seeing how well it worked I figured why not, nobody ever looks at my knives anyway besides me. (That is unless I show them and even then most people don't want to look at them)
     
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  13. clovehitch

    clovehitch

    64
    Jan 8, 2018
    Since broken skull is FFG, you could easily remove the DLC/logo with sandpaper and mirror polish the entire blade easily.
     
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  14. 353

    353

    Feb 20, 2015
    Hahaha!! That's a classic, been there done that! :D
     
  15. Superdave1

    Superdave1

    665
    Apr 9, 2006
    Thank God no other products advertise like that....automobiles, beer, jeans,phones, beef jerky...
     
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  16. James Y

    James Y

    Feb 18, 1999
    My favorite CS knife is the Broken Skull. I do think the wording on it is tacky, but I don't dislike it enough to remove the DLC finish on mine. Like Jill said, nobody ever looks at or cares about my knives, and if anybody ever does, one knife looks like the other to them. I sometimes use my Beoken Skull doing yard work. It's so light and thin that I just carry it unclipped down in pocket, like a regular pocketknife, rather than use the horrible, pocket-shredding clip. Cuts like crazy.

    As for LT, he's certainly been doing something right. CS has been around for how long? Nearly 40 years now?

    Jim
     
  17. 115Italian

    115Italian

    Nov 13, 2015
    My love/hate relationship ends with not liking their pocket clips. Bad positions and awkward curves.
     
  18. NJBillK

    NJBillK Custom Leather and Fixed Blade modifications.

    Mar 27, 2014
    I can understand this, but what stops me dead in my tracks is his thinking that he owns the term "San Mai" and has sent out numerous cease and desist letters to custom knife makers for using the term.

    Anyone that has That big of an ego, is not going to get one cent from me.
     
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  19. nick21

    nick21

    Feb 22, 2014
    Tuff Lite and the Voyager are the only two knives from them i care about

    I've sworn them off since the San Mai debacle.
     
  20. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 11, 2016
    They pretty much do, but now that I'm not some dumb kid these commercials alone don't make me want the stuff.
     

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