If you wanted to, sure!Benchmade trademarks the term Bali-Song. Do I also ban every dealer who uses that term for non Benchmade butterfly knives?
No, it's not what I "want" it's what you guys are screaming your heads off about & having meltdowns over. It's also not what "we all know" - at allYet again you've shown you lack the foresight to see the long term consequences of such actions, but have no problems demanding I act as the IP police for what people do on other websites. That's not my job.If you wanted to, sure!
Context matters here. We all know why topomart shouldn't be here. Seems you just need a reason within the rules. They were unable to get Al Capone on all the really bad crimes...
BF is an endorsement whether unintentional or not.
When did you last check?Last time I checked, I don't have prosecution power for any law breaking or IP infringement either.
So if I understand this, they can sell here, but they are not allowed to talk about what they are selling, and we can buy, provided we don’t discuss what we purchased. Certainly strange times and strange rules.
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I have read through this entire thread and one question I didn’t see asked or answered was what was the original intent on allowing this “dealer’s” entrance in the first place?
Seems we were mistaken and anyone with knives to sell and 350 can be here.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, or a jerk but all of the examples you name I can, within the rules, go onto the exchange here and buy or sell. I can discuss or promote them freely and not expect any of the mods to blink an eye. I can't do that with the kind of clones that Topomart is selling, the rules are very clear on that.Thanks for your opinion. So just to be clear, if any Dealer member carries OTF knives, you will not be renewing? Any dealers carrying multitools other than Leatherman? I'm curious where you draw the line. Pocket clips? Thumbstuds?
Will you also be boycotting any dealer or manufacturer who exhibits at BLADE or SHOT show?
And yet in this very thread people are demanding that the line be moved to police what's done off BladeForums.com. If I do that, what's next? Let the line be redrawn again the next time someone has a fit about something?I'm not trying to be sarcastic, or a jerk but all of the examples you name I can, within the rules, go onto the exchange here and buy or sell. I can discuss or promote them freely and not expect any of the mods to blink an eye. I can't do that with the kind of clones that Topomart is selling, the rules are very clear on that.
I'm not bringing this up to accuse you of hypocrisy or to say that the rules need to be changed to be consistent, but to point out that whoever hammered out those rules, I don't know if it was you alone or how it happened, already drew a line and I think that's the reason most of us drew the same line there in the past and why we expected it to be drawn there now.
I guess I don't see the substantiative difference in drawing that line in that place for sales taking place on the forum and drawing it in that same place for dealers selling those products off the forum. I'll be the first to say that the reason I don't see it may be that I don't own or moderate a forum, but if BFC hasn't had issues with the line moving towards banning the sale of say, Blackjack knives for copying Randall, or the other way towards allowing Ganzo clones of the Rat 1 I don't understand why a line about dealers that primarily deal in clones on or off the forum would prove much more mutable.And yet in this very thread people are demanding that the line be moved to police what's done off BladeForums.com. If I do that, what's next? Let the line be redrawn again the next time someone has a fit about something?
SECTION 3 - Rules for Everyone
6.These forums operate on honesty and integrity. As such, we have a dim view of people who act dishonestly. Your actions in the community have consequences, even if they happen elsewhere, something to keep in mind.
Benchmade trademarks the term Bali-Song. Do I also ban every dealer who uses that term for non Benchmade butterfly knives?
Having Topomart on that list doesn't immediately make the list completely useless; the many excellent sites I've ordered from in the past are still on there, after all. But it certainly makes it less useful, and I won't be pointing folks to that list anymore.
Seems you just need a reason within the rules. They were unable to get Al Capone on all the really bad crimes...
Don't go all Philip K.Dick on a relatively simple material situation...
And many numbnuts help them by marveling like "hey, this PissingTiger is so much like a [legit brand] but so much cheaper and it does everything as good and even better...". You can't cure stupid. Sad.
You've been around here long enough to know how to quote someone so they know you are addressing them. And with that said, I won't be responding to you further in this thread. We don't need off topic personal attacks muddying up the discussion.