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New 14 run

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by olywa, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. Kiteman72

    Kiteman72 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2015
    My attraction to the CCs was the fact that they are 2 blade knives.

    So few 2 blade variants were produced overall, I wasn't feeling that particular about the branding. But now, if I have to worry about losing the shield when carrying it around, my elderberry is pretty much relegated to a showpiece. And you are certainly correct about the premium charged for them as well.

    My uneducated wild guess is that the CC shields were already available and had no pins, so they had to be glued.
     
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  2. Old Engineer

    Old Engineer Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 30, 2014
    So are , or would you be , worried about buying a Northfield knife because they are not being made by the founder of them ???

    Harry
     
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  3. blanco112

    blanco112 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 1, 2016
    An adhesive wouldn't necessarily bother me if it were the right one. Sounds like whatever they used isn't doing the trick.
     
  4. Kiteman72

    Kiteman72 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2015
    Maybe that's the holdup on the ironwood/cocobolo. Perhaps the glue refuses to stick to the wood?
     
  5. NewBlades16

    NewBlades16 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Dec 28, 2015
    Maybe the founder is not making it, but still has an interest in it. GEC owns that brand right? So maybe it is an old name and they bought the brand. They are the manufacturer that owns the brand. Am I on the right track?

    Get where you are coming from now. Looked on GEC and Northfield is a very old brand. But GEC has the rights now.

    Also, Mr. Cargill is still living, right?

    What are your thoughts?

    Of course I started gabbing and now realize that maybe this is more appropriate on the Cripple Creek thread. Sorry back on track.
     
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  6. Old Engineer

    Old Engineer Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 30, 2014
    I certainly appreciate what Mr. Cargill has accomplished in his life and things most likely would have been different were it not for his health . It would have been nice if he had commissioned them , but apparently he has sold the rights to the name .
    Maybe I read something into what you said that is not there and if so , then I apologize Sir .
    I have a few of the new Cripple Creeks and am happy with them and someday I will surely get at least one of the originals .

    Harry
     
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  7. robbobus

    robbobus Gold Member Gold Member

    677
    Oct 4, 2009
    Regarding the pinning of shields with relief work on the CC 14s. When the Diamond Jack 15 harness and radio jacks came out, the factory had a very hard time affixing the shields properly on the ebonies due to the fancy diamond shields and that they would not be repeating the endeavor. Charlie has mentioned something to this effect a number of years ago.
    Could also be a cost savings for the commissioner if the Cripple Creeks.
     
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  8. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    Doesn't Gorilla Glue expand as it dries?
    [/edit] Day late and a dollar short.
     
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  9. drj211

    drj211 Gold Member Gold Member

    251
    Jun 26, 2008
    I was cutting open a package of bacon this morning and dropped mine on the tile floor in the kitchen. I can sadly confirm the shield is glued! At least the bacon came out good!

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  10. NewBlades16

    NewBlades16 Gold Member Gold Member

    789
    Dec 28, 2015
    Hahaha!! #3! Why did you have to drop it! You should be more careful. If you didn’t have dropped it, then the shield would not have fallen off! Hahaha! We have to find some humor in this! You are now part of the elite club now! Anyone else care to join.
    Serously though, I am sure Bill has caught wind of this and I wonder what he is thinking?
     
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  11. drj211

    drj211 Gold Member Gold Member

    251
    Jun 26, 2008
    I have to split the responsibility with the bacon company. Normally, the package has a split in the seal that can be pulled apart. Today’s package was sealed up tight, so I had to use the knife! Any other time this happens, I grab one of the kitchen knives. That’ll learn me!
     
  12. Ramrodmb

    Ramrodmb Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 9, 2010
    The CC's are now the Boker of the GEC world.
    Sorry for your misfortune @drj211.
     
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  13. Jiki

    Jiki Basic Member Basic Member

    532
    Jun 12, 2018
    I'd say it's better to drop it in the kitchen and knock it off where you can find the shield than to leave it to chance later. If I had one of these knives I would almost be inclined to remove the shield and resecure it myself with 2 part epoxy so I knew it was safe.
     
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  14. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    Never blame bacon :D
     
  15. Jiki

    Jiki Basic Member Basic Member

    532
    Jun 12, 2018
    Words to live by.
     
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  16. r8shell

    r8shell Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 16, 2010
    I have replaced a number of Boker shields, and I recommend two part epoxy. Cyanoacrylates like superglue are kind of brittle, and won't fill gaps well. Also, those insets look pretty shallow, so take a scribe and scratch up the surface under the shield to give the glue something to hold onto.
     
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  17. waverave

    waverave Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 7, 2018
    I asked SMKW for comment so this could be settled and we can all move on to enjoying this thread for its intended purpose. Everything else belongs in whine and cheese at this point.

    "Darren : All production knives produced today feature shields that are glued in .. Case , Buck , Boker , Rough Rider, Marbles...and yes Cripple Creek... In fact the original Cripple Creek knife shields were also glued . For your general information , the shields we are using in this production and many more in the future are actually left over original production shields and were acquired when Cripple Creek sold out. Thanks for your support of the Brand and I would imagine that just not enough glue was put into the handle cavity before the shield was placed in the pocket... Hope this helps. Kevin Pipes"
     
  18. Ramrodmb

    Ramrodmb Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 9, 2010
    Wasn't the intended purpose of this thread to talk about the 14's?
    What and cheese??
     
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  19. Ramrodmb

    Ramrodmb Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 9, 2010
    I think 2 part Epoxy is the right adhesive to use here, too.:thumbsup: And excellent advice to score both surfaces.
     
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  20. NewBlades16

    NewBlades16 Gold Member Gold Member

    789
    Dec 28, 2015
    I was thinking the same thing, Mark.
     
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