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hey now, some people paid 4 dollars for these knives, be respectful!
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hey now, some people paid 4 dollars for these knives, be respectful!
The steel is so soft that IF it's had any heat treatment, then they've wasted money in the process. File gouged deeply and the grinder didn't spark.
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With all due respect I just don't see how it is any better than a gas station knife. Yes, it has g10 scales. But even the guys who have shown appreciation of these knives have admitted that the locks fail. The steel is very very low budget, and the overall construction is iffy. From my point of view, it is still from mainland china, the same as the gas station knives. Therefore I can't see how it's such a big improvement.
I think the reason so many people are being naysayers is because it's funny that although you all have much more expensive knives, you are touting the greatness of these, even if it's just "at this pricepoint". Personally I'm not busting any of your chops, I couldnt care less what knives people like, but it's laughable that a Walmart knife is being praised at all. I mean let's be honest, the next step up is Frost cutlery and Mtech
Edit: I do agree that these will reach their target market, but that doesn't really mean anything. Like I said above, if somebody's first knife was an Mtech and they came on bladeforums spewing of its greatness, they'd be shut down fast. But if somebody's first knife is an Ozark trail, then by all means they're on their way to a Sebenza
I appreciate your informative, reasonable replies even under scrutiny.I am not the designer, I am the buyer. The knives are 420J2. I typically do concern myself with blade steels (looking at some CPM S30V and 154CM options this coming year) but for a knife under $4, blade steel is not at the top of my priorities. Most consumers of $4 knives look at different blade steels and all they see is alphabet soup.
Even with Walmart having the best ocean freight rates in the world, the downstream replenishment of knives can be extremely expensive. They are typically slow turning items, and therefore replenished individually as they sell. This means that they have to be break-pack items in a DC, so someone physically has to pick each knife and repack it before it goes to a store. The handling is where it gets expensive.
Jill- yer not a hater, are you?
Yea it is, at my Wal-Mart it's not with the rest on that middle of the aisle display thou. I found it on a spinner rack near the rifle display.I appreciate your informative, reasonable replies even under scrutiny.
So the blue/black tanto model is also available at Wal-Mart? I didn't see it when I went.
Yeah I hate Walmart. They have put every small business out of business and flooded the country with cheap Chinese crap. Making billions while paying workers next to nothing. Plus they've contributed greatly to destroying America's manufacturing industry. That's just a fact you should remember while gushing over these 4 dollar wonder knives.
So, Why was Wal-mart allowed to set up a business?
Please
And, I'm not gushing. These are good knives at a good price.
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Don't let the negativity discourage you, haters gonna hate.Jill I can assure you that I'm not personally making billions. I have many friends in upstate New York and the Portland area who I think would vouch for me saying that US sourcing is at the very top of my list. The only thing more important to me is delivering great value to my customers. Our ideas of value might not be aligned, but I know that I'm taking bigger steps in the right direction than any of my competitors. The only other retailer who is having any success at this is Amazon. I'm not too familiar with how this board treats Amazon, but I love them and hate them. They do a fantastic job of passing on the lowest possible price to their customers, and they get cheered for it. Just remember that a retail world ruled by Amazon is a world where millions of "underpaid" workers become unemployed.
Now that I got that part out of my system, I really appreciate being able to be a member of this forum and to share opinions with all enthusiasts. I've already channeled all of the feedback I've received so far back to my supplier. I love getting paid to work at something I'm so passionate about, and communities like BF help make that possible. I know that not everyone will like or appreciate this or any knife, but I enjoy just talking about it.
Yeah I hate Walmart. They have put every small business out of business and flooded the country with cheap Chinese crap. Making billions while paying workers next to nothing. Plus they've contributed greatly to destroying America's manufacturing industry. That's just a fact you should remember while gushing over these 4 dollar wonder knives.
In addition they may pay their associates lower than most, but they also provide better benefits that others don't. They also do a lot for the communities they are in both with company money and fundraising. They also offer stock purchase plans for associates. This is free market capitalism and those that provide the best prices will always win out. Small businesses are fragile anyway and if Wal-Mart drove them out they were likely struggling anyway. Good strong small businesses carry different products and do well even with a Wal-Mart.don't forget walmart just gave the buyers/customers what they wanted. otherwise they'd be out of business by now. we can blame big companies all we want, but in the end it's the consumers who drove this.......