Would you rather have 4 really decent knives or one excellent knife?

Krissig12 said:
The minimalistic Ti framelock look was PIONEERED by CRK. Its utterly rediculous to dock the sebenza points for looking the same as everything that copied it decades after it was made......If anything, the looks are "classic", not "bland"
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The minimalistic knife blade look was PIONEERED by cavemen who knapped flint into shape. It's utterly "rediculous" to dock knapped flint knives points for looking like everything that copied it decades after it was made......If anything, flint knapped knives are "classic", not "bland".
 
I love the assertion most fanboy spout that Sebenzas are just to expensive for the lower class to appreciate.

I've spent over $2000 since Jan 1st.
 
asdf12345 said:
According to some, the reason why you see them constantly on the secondary market is because those people just weren't perceptive enough to detect the amazingly tight tolerances and perfection in fit and finish. Or those people were simply inexperienced, ignorant people who don't have the "keen eye" it takes to appreciate what actual quality is.

Oh, and the experienced knifeowners who claim they don't see the Sebenza's perfection? Why, they're just coming down with a bad case of sour grapes.

For anyone considering liquidating their knives for a Sebenza - if you have medium to large sized hands, try out the knife at a knife store or a show. The concave sweep of the frame gives the knife very particular ergonomics that you might want to try out before you commit.
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Why do you insist on being so dense?

The people who sell their sebenzas are people who decided they didn't like them. There are no CRK fans arguing that they are ignorant and that's why they didn't like them. What's ignorant is to state things like "CRK is like CrApple because they tell you what you should like", as Mr. leathermanGX did:rolleyes:

It's also pretty ignorant to group all CRK enthusiasts into the "elitist" category, and assume that they all believe CRKs are the only good knives.

My personal journey has brought me to CRK, and I've explained why that is. Beyond that, there isn't much I can do. I have no control over what knives other people settle on, and I won't pretend that my choice of knife is right for everyone.
 
asdf12345 said:
The minimalistic knife blade look was PIONEERED by cavemen who knapped flint into shape. It's utterly "rediculous" to dock knapped flint knives points for looking like everything that copied it decades after it was made......If anything, flint knapped knives are "classic", not "bland".
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Absolutely true in many ways. But we aren't comparing knapped flint knife blades here, we're comparing minimalistic Ti framelocks. In that category, CRK came first.
 
Krissig12 said:
Why do you insist on being so dense?

The people who sell their sebenzas are people who decided they didn't like them. There are no CRK fans arguing that they are ignorant and that's why they didn't like them. What's ignorant is to state things like "CRK is like CrApple because they tell you what you should like", as Mr. leathermanGX did:rolleyes:

It's also pretty ignorant to group all CRK enthusiasts into the "elitist" category, and assume that they all believe CRKs are the only good knives.

My personal journey has brought me to CRK, and I've explained why that is. Beyond that, there isn't much I can do. I have no control over what knives other people settle on, and I won't pretend that my choice of knife is right for everyone.
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On the contrary, I'm commending CRK fans for their perceptiveness and ability to determine what true quality is, unlike the rest of the riffraff. You guys consistently know what you're talking about, especially when it comes to tolerances, fit and finish. After all you did mention in this thread that the poor, inexperienced OP might be disappointed in his Sebenza since he might not be able to appreciate the finer points of building a true quality knife and might sell his Sebenza as a result! Very salient of you, I must say!

It's a good thing the blade of the Sebenza is heat treated the way it is, by the way, so that people like the OP who might have only had to sharpen their knives once in a while now get to experience the joys of field sharpening!
 
Ajack60 said:
When I first started collecting knives, I had fun with the many different brands, blade shapes and materials that are offered. After a sizeable collection of different knives, I EDC a Sebenza and Strider most every day. The Sebenza does the work of my daily chores. Everyone needs to experience a CRK to determine if it for them. For some like me, it the best all around knife I own.
Have fun in collecting and trying different knives, keep the hunt going and you'll come to find that one nice knife that won't bore you and serve you for a long, long time without any issues.
For me, it is the Sebenza.
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Me too, Sebenza for edc to work and Strider for everything else. The Strider I wasn't sure about at first, but it really grew on me. I'm not a collector of things so these two cover my bases with a mini-grip for something a little lighter and smaller. And maybe a Spyderco Military lol...

Watches are similar, some want 30 $200-$400 Seikos, and others want two 2-5k Swiss watches.
 
I’ll rather have four knives. I’ll rather have one decent knives than four bad knives though.

Anyway, I would be quite happy with a Mora Bushcraft, a Spyderco Delica, a SAK and another good knife (for example a Buck 110).

Plus, although I appreciate the excellent fit & finish of a Sebenza, if I could only own one knife it would be a Delica.A Sebenza is a delicious piece of functional luxury and in my view beautiful in an understated way. But it’s not the ‘best’ knife in a practical way.
 
asdf12345 said:
On the contrary, I'm commending CRK fans for their perceptiveness and ability to determine what true quality is, unlike the rest of the riffraff. You guys consistently know what you're talking about, especially when it comes to tolerances, fit and finish. After all you did mention in this thread that the poor, inexperienced OP might be disappointed in his Sebenza since he might not be able to appreciate the finer points of building a true quality knife and might sell his Sebenza as a result! Very salient of you, I must say!

It's a good thing the blade of the Sebenza is heat treated the way it is, by the way, so that people like the OP who might have only had to sharpen their knives once in a while now get to experience the joys of field sharpening!
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I cleared up what I meant, even apologizing to the OP for assuming that he didn't care about the tolerences and subsequently correcting myself, but you still seem to want to cling to your ignorance. Fine by me.....

All I was saying was that it was my OPINION that a newcomer to the high end knife collecting game (which OP clearly stated that he was) shouldn't drop everything he already has just so that he can get a sebenza whose only improvement over what he already has is tolerences and slightly better fit and finish. He may be disappointed in it for any number of reasons, INCLUDING realizing that the tolerences don't matter enough to him to justify the price of the knife.

And if they DO matter to him, then he may STILL find himself disappointed by any of the other hotly debated features of sebenzas, such as the looks, slowness of the action, or as you mentioned the relative softness of the blade. Any disappointment would lead to him being out 4 perfectly decent knives that he was already happy with, and stuck with a knife he doesn't like.

My main point was that he didn't know for a fact that he would like it, so it was IN MY OPINION unwise for him to sell his collection to fund the sebenza
 
asdf12345 said:
On the contrary, I'm commending CRK fans for their perceptiveness and ability to determine what true quality is, unlike the rest of the riffraff. You guys consistently know what you're talking about, especially when it comes to tolerances, fit and finish. After all you did mention in this thread that the poor, inexperienced OP might be disappointed in his Sebenza since he might not be able to appreciate the finer points of building a true quality knife and might sell his Sebenza as a result! Very salient of you, I must say!

It's a good thing the blade of the Sebenza is heat treated the way it is, by the way, so that people like the OP who might have only had to sharpen their knives once in a while now get to experience the joys of field sharpening!
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Even though the guy apologized for his point (not needed imo) it's pretty obvious that a user is not gonna appreciate the fit and finish of a knife like a sebenza as their first knife as much if they have no previous experience with production folders. I mean why is this even being debated. There is nothing elitist about this assertion it applies to anything in life. I don't even own a sebenza FYI.
 
RafaelHerschel said:
I’ll rather have four knives. I’ll rather have one decent knives than four bad knives though.

Anyway, I would be quite happy with a Mora Bushcraft, a Spyderco Delica, a SAK and another good knife (for example a Buck 110).

Plus, although I appreciate the excellent fit & finish of a Sebenza, if I could only own one knife it would be a Delica.A Sebenza is a delicious piece of functional luxury and in my view beautiful in an understated way. But it’s not the ‘best’ knife in a practical way.
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Very well said. If I only cared about practicality, I would buy a crap ton of delicas and use the snot out of them. Light, thin blades, versatile design.....awesome knives.

The sebenza, for all the practicality it DOES have, doesn't have $300+ more practicality than a 60 dollar delica. But then again neither does a 200 dollar ZT or Spyderco......

Once you get into the "is it really worth it game", arguing between a 200 dollar knife and a 300 dollar knife becomes pretty damn pointless
 
I couldn't and wouldn't recommend one knife. You always need a backup, even if you don't carry two at a time. I carry one only, but have plenty of back-ups incase I lost my primary. I also don't think there is one perfect knife. I appreciate quality but also appreciate diversity. I have a Sebenza but many other knives from $20 beaters on up to the Sebenza. A good quality knife is just that.. a good knife, no matter the price. So if you have 3 good knives, I wouldn't sell them for 1 good knife. I'd recommend saving up for a Sebenza if you really want to try one, then thin the herd after if you feel the need.
 
the simple answer ... Id take the four quality knives you have over one of anything. That being said ... I purchased my first Sebenza in December and I had sold a few non users to make the buy. Since then Ive purchased 4 others with my 6th on order as of yesterday. I love my Sebenzas but I still have other knives ZTs a Benchmade 940 ... a Para2 ... that at times fill my need better IMHO ...its not that my Sebenzas couldnt or wouldnt do the job as well but others can also. So I think your post about saving to get the Sebenza first and then sell if thats what works best for you would be my reccomendation. I think the Sebenzas are worth the tag they carry but I also believe the list you posted are quite capable knives in their own right and all have a place and use.

When I got my first Sebenza it actually took a bit for me to fall in love with it I had thought Id made a mistake and was glad I hadnt sold anything I used regularly. But in a short time I saw what all the hype was about.

So I wish you luck and hope you love your Sebenza whatever you chose to do. Im not sure where you live if you were close Id meet you and let you get a feel for the Sebenzas as I didnt get that chance. Luckily I think for me they were a great buy.
 
Charlie Mike said:
Maybe I'm an oddball. I've tried a Seiko 007, Tag Heuer Aquaracer auto, Rolex Sea Dweller, RGM300, Rolex Submariner... all these leading up to a Rolex Deepsea. That was the one. I'm done. It does everything I want. Size, weight, aesthetics... Perfect.

There was only one time I had 2 watches... and that was for a few months after getting the Deepsea. I sold the Submariner quickly.

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I hear ya, I to have had a 007 and the Aquaracer, I'm just about 10k shy of the DSSD lol. But I would love to have a sub one day.
 
To the OP - buy a Chinese "replica" sebenza and if you like how it fits your hand get a real one so that you can appreciate the CRK fit and finish.
 
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The sebbie is put up on a pedestal daily, I cannot believe the amount of traffic the name gets. From both fans and haters. But I guarantee it must boost sales. The legend continues. But, can't we all just get along. And let's not turn this into another counterfeit thread. This is getting old fast.

Remember what we usually love is all in the design of a knife, not so much the hype.
BTW today I saw that dicks has the Kershaw Emerson 7K. I just had to get it, fun knife! If I did not have a chance to see it in person I would have never picked it up.
Good luck OP and I hope you found some positive in this thread . I might have my favorite , but there is always room for an extra toy.
 
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When I first read your post and you said "4 decent knives" I thought you were going to mention knives in the $30-$60 range and wanted to buy something along the lines of one of the 4 you mentioned that you already have. I have never used a Sebenza, however those are 4 very good knives you have there - and to me, they are more then just decent :-) At the end of the day its your money you can do what you like - but I think what you have there is some quality blades already.

utahsam said:
I'm pretty new to spending real money on knives. I like to own usable, reliable, quality knives, and I like to carry them and use them for kitchen, utility, and camping--and to feel prepared for various unlikely scenarios. I've been buying and trading for about a year and have settled on a few knives I think are pretty decent, which I rotate for EDC: BM 940, Spyderco PM2, ZT 0566 and ZT 0801. Its been suggested to me that I would be better off selling them all and investing in a Sebenza...just one really good knife to carry everyday and love. Any of you ever make that decision? Did you regret it?
Thanks
Sam
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