Interesting, though seems a bit odd to have two distinctly different groups asking for the exact same knife, no???
Who is meant by the I, is it the Leadership member, or you.
Who, is up in the air over the knife?
No, it's not odd. It's what normally happens when clubs get knives. For example, the exact same thing just happened with the #38s. OKCA got a #38 with the beaver shield tacked onto the normal run. Here is the image GEC currently has on their site
https://greateasterncutlery.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/GEC-ILLUSTRATED-1.jpg Not to mention, as I have above, that it's what AMKCA has done the last several years. Usually it's just a different cover material, but it can be as simple as just adding the AMKCA etch. (it's an extreme favor by Bill and hugely appreciated by all club members and AMKCA in general)
The I in the sentence you quoted referred to me, the writer.
This is third party info but the other AMKCA member who talked to Bill said that Bill seemed up in the air or unsure (I don't recall his exact words) about the knife. It wasn't a huge thing, certainly not as big as people are making it out to be here. He may well have meant the bolster style or cover color wasn't decided, or he might have meant he was unsure of making the knife, who knows.
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writes at post #1385.
“...Bill seemed surprised to hear I knew about the mockup and up in the air about the knife...so not sure what to make of that.”
Let me explain it to you. Bill Howard could be having second thoughts about making our knife. This kind of annoyance is probably one of the main reasons he wants to end SFO’s.
I hope you consulted Charlie before you encouraged another group to tack onto our run as you phrased it. It would be the courteous thing to do. Charlie has graciously taken on the mantle for us and has gotten off to a promising start. He is the only reason we have a chance, and I do not believe anyone else has the stature to pull it off. In asking Bill Howard to make the forum knife he is using his personal influence for our benefit. We should not interfere and make his job more difficult.
You waded in further and emailed...“Bill with an unrelated question I had and mentioned I saw it on the GECC facebook group via here.”
What? That is as clear as mud and probably made him feel even less inclined to make our knife.
If there is any positive angle here it is that Bill Howard does not seem like the kind of person who would renege on a commitment, so I believe we will survive this for 2021. I also have confidence in Charlie’s ability to handle the situation. However, this might not bode well for future efforts with GEC and probably will make them less likely to take on club knives.
A lot of potential harm in short order. Please cease and desist.
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, there be rocks ahead.
You certainly seem to think you know a lot about me, my intentions, AMKCA, the situation with AMKCA's club knife, etc. from a single post.
First, as I mentioned above, the idea of tacking a few knives onto a run for an AMKCA club knife is not new. It was already discussed for this year.
I didn't consult Charlie, because I had no reason to believe it was a secret or exclusive to BladeForums. In fact, here's a direct quote from Charlie when he posted the mockup; "News from GEC!! Bill has made us an offer!! I think it also previews a knife he will make later in the year! Tell me what you think!!" Here's a link to the post if you find me too harmful to believe:
https://bladeforums.com/threads/the...scussion-thread.1779065/page-30#post-20439577
So what about that should have indicated to me that it was something that should not be shared outside of BF (which is not even where I saw it first)? Or that it wasn't to be itself tacked on to an upcoming run (and not some special favor small run)? Or even that it wasn't a sure thing (being that it was an offer)? That post seems to indicate that it was an offer on the table and that it was itself going to be tacked onto a normal run (just like AMKCA knives normally are). I looked back at Charlie's other posts in this thread and don't see anything in any other posts that contradict this understanding. I just see Spark being on board, and general enthusiasm for the knife.
That is where my actions came from; pure enthusiast for a knife that I thought looked cool. When the #86s came out I thought that it'd be great as a barlow, and hoped they'd do some in that configuration in the future. When I saw that BladeForums was getting an #86 barlow and that it seemed likely to be part of a larger run, I was just genuinely excited. AMKCA had already been in discussion on what pattern to have their club knife made on this year, and they haven't had a barlow club knife as far as I know. That's all it was. Certainly 0% negativity, or trying to harm the BladeForums knife, or take away from BF or the process, or anything of the sort.
Again, I mean no negativity toward Charlie about how he posted it whatsoever, or about the knife, or about GEC. I am just showing how my actions are not what they're being painted as by you and others. No surprise to me, unfortunately, that my interactions on the Porch have lessened my excitement and enthusiasm.
LOL cease and desist? Maybe you should send me a strongly worded letter.
Multiple missteps here, and if this sinks the GEC 2021 knife, well, I wouldn't want to be you. Why would you think it was acceptable to try to get another group's knife added to what is almost certainly a favor run for Charlie and BF? That was irresponsible in the extreme.
I might have missed it, but I didn't see anything saying that it was a favor run for Charlie and BF. Like many things with GEC upcoming production I wouldn't be surprised if details were undetermined. Above you can see where the original post including the mock up, which I made sure to look at to see what Charlie said about it, said no such thing and in fact indicated it was likely to be part of a larger / general run of the pattern.
It's amazing how much sway you think one simple email (that, again, was mostly not on this subject) I sent can have over Bill and this process.
So, being that it's what's always been done for AMKCA and what Charlie suggested was being done for the BladeForums knife, I think it was relatively reasonable for me to think it acceptable to inquire about having a few knives added on to what was indicated was possibly going to be a general run of knives to be AMKCA club knives.
Also, I'm not really sure why you wouldn't want to be me. I already seem to be a pariah here on BladeForums, so I'm not sure what could be done. I have a good standing in the community in general and with GEC. Thanks for your concern though!
